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Iraqi guerillas destroy myth of America's invincible military
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You can't use "intentionally holding back" as an excuse. Militaries are measured by what they are capable of, not what they might be capable of if no one payed any attention.

If America unleashed its full arsenal then you'd turn the entire planet against you. You can't just ignore politics when looking at military campaigns.

Korea is when America properly failed for the first time, but only recently have Americans realised that the reason why they've lost in the past isn't because of others failings but because of their failings.

Losing in Korea and Vietnam was blamed on commies infecting the American administration and using their mind beams to weaken the president. So the red scare sorted them out. 9/11 was blamed on loose security, so the Patriot Act sorted that out.

Truth is, you didn't lose in Korea or Vietnam because of communists in America. It was because no one in the US administration had a clue about Indo-China or Korea. 9/11 wasn't the result of lack security - the bombers had perfect ID and would still be able to board planes today.

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This is actually a rather excellent article (if notoriously biased).

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BUMP.

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Quote: from Lalique at 12:46 pm on Nov. 26, 2006

well, their guerilla tactics are cowardice.


That makes me cry, and laugh at the same time.....


why should the ethics of war be written by the western nations?

It is NO COINCIDENCE, that these nations promote army v army combat and consider anything else as cowardly (they are the ones with the strong military)

Such a perfect example, is of Terrorism -- Personally, I support it, am I about to get flamed for that belief?

probably.



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Quote: from children of the wood at 10:03 am on Nov. 26, 2006

Anything starting with a che guevara quote i really have not intrist in. Really che was a self riteous shit who did more harm than good. I might agree with the artical but really i have a burning hate for che.


How....disapointing.


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I PITY YOUR NARROW-MINDEDNESS


There you go Apoth....

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I'm with Apotheosis

the article for the most part isn't bad.

The Us military knew for years that urban combat was a severe weakness. Previous simulations following Operation desert storm had 60% casulities. The insurgents are merely showing us something we already know.

Lalique, no guriella tactics are used by a inferior force aganist a superior force to equate the tatical and stragetic differences. The colonists used guerilla tactics aganist the British. Hell, we lost many of the standing fights aganist the British. You don't hit a enemy where they are strongest. That is suicide.

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I just fucked up the entire eighth fleet of the Archadian empire in final fantasy XII so I can relate to this article.

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Quote: from medjai at 1:44 pm on Nov. 26, 2006

I just fucked up the entire eighth fleet of the Archadian empire in final fantasy XII so I can relate to this article.

I fucked up a huge chaos army in DOW: Dark Crusade so I can relate as well.

5 fully armed Chaos Marine squads, 3 defilers, 1 chaos lord, 1 chaos sorcerer, 3 cultists squads, chaos predator, 2 demon squads all went toast to a small Tau force. God I love artillery.

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I'm a well-known Guerilla lover.

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I once played Age of empires II with the japanese.

it was all going tits up, my Samurai were getting between by some crappy peasants from a backward society.


then, all of a sudden, I advanced to the feudal age and developed 'cannon's on dodge vipers' technology.

yeah, those pesants were fucked.  

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Dark templar.

IM IN UR BASE!!! KILLING UR DUDEZ!!!

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Samson:


Losing in Korea and Vietnam was blamed on commies infecting the American administration and using their mind beams to weaken the president.


Or was it Emmanuel Goldstein?

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I'm going to go ahead and sticky this as official place for Iraq discussion.

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Quote: from Apotheosis at 6:52 pm on Nov. 26, 2006

I'm going to go ahead and sticky this as official place for Iraq discussion.

Please tell me you're joking.

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No, I'm not. I liked the article, and this place needs an Iraq sticky so that I can remove the five hundred daily Iraq topics for being repetitive.

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